The catch phrase these days for man on man relations is, "don't label me". I used to feel there were two types of men, homosexual and bisexual. I should take a second to say if you are not comfortable with talking about sexuality, now would be a good time to look at cute puppy memes! Many guys however seem to have a problem with the term bisexual. To me, any guy that is interested in having some form of sexual experience with another guy is to some degree bisexual. Maybe they misunderstand the term, maybe I am the one who is wrong regarding the meaning. I think about my own situation, I identify as gay, I have no sexual attraction to women. I would however if in the right situation, be open to try having sex with a woman just for the experience. I don't feel that makes me bisexual for the main reason that I never think of searching out a situation where that could happen. It's not part of my fantasies, I don't really think about it.
I am fascinated by guys that identify as straight and yet experiment with other guys. I guess it's the hyper masculinity of a straight alpha male, the forbidden fruit so to speak. Maybe it's also the realization, my belief system is turning out true, that a lot of guys are actually bisexual to some degree but were raised to reject it. I actually email back and forth with some guys like this, I am not going to meet them, I just am so interested in how they think and how they see themselves.
One guy describes himself as straight-ish, he likes to meet up with other guys, get to know them, watch straight porn together and masturbate, it's a male bonding experience, he said sometimes when they get to know each other they will help each other out while watching the movie, mutual masturbation and sometimes oral. It's bonding over their attraction to women however and heterosexual sex not homosexual sex. He said this aspect is what turns him on, he is not interested in watching a gay film with other guys or being with a gay man. He is comfortable around gay men so it doesn't seem to be some issue with internal homophobia.
Another man I used to email with also said he is mostly straight. He told me about a hidden world that he is part of, mostly young attractive married men. They have secret meetings which involve group masturbation. They have families which they love but they have this drive to be with another guy. They don't want to risk sti's so they stick with watching each other masturbate. They join the same gyms or clubs, that way nobody ever suspects something when a group of friends go out together.
These men identify as straight or straight-ish, I guess the straight-ish is their sheepish way of admitting some degree of bisexuality. I know it's wrong of me to say they are not straight and they can call themselves whatever they want to but again if I think about myself, it doesn't make sense. Since most of you are gay reading this, would you but in the effort of finding women who like to sleep with gay men? Would you place adds, go through dating sites, drive across town to special adult shops and theaters, all to find a woman when you claim to like only men? I think if we were slightly obsessed with finding women as well as men, doesn't that make us bisexual?
This is all part of the interesting subject known as male sexuality. I am not judging anyone here, call yourself whatever you want or don't want to be called. Either way I find it fascinating, most people have no clue what is really going on around them. I think you will see more and more of this with the younger generation as homosexual attractions becomes much more acceptable. In fact at work, many of the young men see being bigoted towards gay people on the same level as saying the "n" word and that's fantastic. I was reading recently where men in college are seeking affection from each other instead of from women, they said it was easier as women make relationships complicated, that may soon translate into sex as well but most guys so far said no, that they draw the line at sex. However if a good number of guys actually do have some degree of bisexuality and are raised that there is nothing wrong with it, many may form friends with benefits type partnerships. I think that would be good for society in one way because people would have a more open mind about sexuality, the drawback could be guys that are lazy about putting any effort into a relationship.
Thursday, March 22, 2018
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I once dated a guy for 6 months before I found out he had a girlfriend
He married her
John, ouch that's terrible! I went on a date with a guy once, he told me about twenty minutes in that he had a girlfriend, at least he was honest but I wanted my own boyfriend and not someone else's. My first boyfriend told me about a strange incident he had before we met. A straight friend of his agreed to let him give him a massage, the guy got an erection and let my friend masturbate him, the next week was the guy's wedding to his girlfriend.
I recently read an article about the rise in popularity of straight guys getting together to watch porn and masturbate. They are not gay. They find watching porn and masturbating as a bonding experience. It was compared to watching sports and drinking beer with their pals. At times the session include oral sex but never cross the line into kissing or anal penetration. The popularity of these activities was partly attributed to changing attitudes surrounding sexuality and preference.
I wouldn’t put any effort into finding a woman to sleep with since hooking up with guys is so easy with the plethora of online sites.
RJ, kind of makes you wish we were born a bit later! I have read these types of articles as well but they were usually from media outlets with not a lot of substance to them. The last ones I read came from actual newspapers, I can't remember which ones but a little Google search should find them. What you are saying is almost exactly what one of the guys is telling me.
The thing is we wouldn't put all that energy into finding a woman because we're not interested in a woman. All I know is that it's really frigging hot to think about! Lol. Guys are really different in their way of thinking, especially young guys with a high sex drive. I remember one straight guy saying regarding hooking up with a gay friend, "why should I do weird things like masturbate with a cantaloupe, when I can have a real person help me out".
I made something for you.
Mr Lurker, is that the puppy I said I wanted? I should really be using the term masculine and not straight, although they are the ones wanting to use it. I hate to say labels when I'm looking for a date however. I have met some really cute guys that are very "soft" and they just gave me goose bumps, especially when a guy is clearly gay but is desperately trying not to appear that way. I want to cuddle them up and protect them.
I thought you wanted a cow? That is not a cow. Are you sure you live on a farm?
This is what a cow looks like.
Mr Lurker, no it was a rework error, at the beginning when I warned people to look at puppy memes, I wrote that I wanted a puppy but it made the paragraph too clumsy so I removed the "I want a puppy" part but forgot that I removed it.
Mr Lurker, that's not a cow, that's a heifer.... look up heifer..... and you asked for it, but seriously that's a heifer not a cow... so there!
Just once I went to one of those group masturbating things here in Philadelphia. While it was hot, I have to say, was very impressed there didn't seem to be labels. It was like a brotherhood and bonding to a point. But nobody was put off by any others choice of sexuality.
And the few straight guys I have had affairs with have said what you mention. Too many complications with women. Or if there married, they prefer a gay guy, for they feel the gay guy won't want more, where a woman they affair with might "fall" for them.
It's all very interesting.
Okay. maybe you live on a farm after all. I am cowed. How can you tell the difference? Not enough udder?
Maddie, I have heard that also, that a woman often falls in love. Actually there was a guy at work who told me he often had women on the side, he said even though it was supposed to be just for fun, often by the third time, the woman would start saying she loved him. He said they get dangerous because they want the world to know about them and don't hear the just friends part anymore.
I still say they have to be a little gay. Right now at this moment there are some women around here that would be happy to date me, some have tried to get close to me, I believe for that reason. Yet I remain alone, it would be better for me to be in a nice relationship, so why don't I do it.... because I can't, I'm gay. If I was even a little bit bisexual then I could give it a try but I'm not. That's what makes me say they have a degree of bisexuality, I don't see why it's such a bad word.
Mr Lurker, her face looks young, her body is not fully developed, there is zero sign of an udder. There is no sheath underneath so it's not a boy. It's a dairy breed most likely Holstein, there is that farmer enough for you? Lol. You know you shouldn't upset a farmer's son, I have two sets of burdizzos and I know how to use them! ;p
Google it! Lol
Enough about the bloody cows x
John, well...... he started it! :p
I think you two just like talking about utters.
Maddie, it's as close to boobs as I'm ever going to get. Seriously I think you are just trying to milk this joke and are being utterly ridiculous, now stop before you steer us in the wrong direction and poor John has a cow!
I'm sure there are other things to milk.
Maddie, what the heck were you doing on my blog at 4 in the morning? Were you pulling an all nighter or do you actually get up that early, because that would be just so wrong lol.
Steven- I had a filthy dream and you were in it!!!!
LOL!!!! I had a huge event at the store and had to be at work by 6am!!!!!!
Maddie, a dream with me in it is not filthy, it's called a nightmare.
Wow, that is early, I hate getting up at five, I think four should be illegal but I understand because of the business you are in.
Dr Spo, if only society would adopt that belief. I believe there are heterosexual men for certain. Just now I don't believe there are as many completely heterosexual men as we were always lead to believe.
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